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Kenneth Copeland supposes to speak in tongues here. Is it real or fake?
!!! This is not an attack on the man, but we have the desire to defend against his false message !!!
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The tongues gift in the early church was not what we see in the current charismatic circle. Prophesy was the better gift. Why? Let's find out in a verse by verse study of 1 Corinthians 14:1-25 with Pastor Jesse.

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as we are getting to this chapter we're coming to unfortunately what is a very
divisive chapter and I just want to say from the onset the way that I prepare to teach passages
that are somewhat confusing on the surface level as I ask the Lord to give me wisdom and guidance I believe the
holy spirit is living inside of me and I believe that it is not a foolish thing
to ask him to help me understand what his word says there's a very big temptation to run to
a commentary to run to great Bible teachers and there's nothing wrong with
those Bible teachers but to run to what they have said this scripture means and while that may come in handy at a
certain point in the research process we should always let the word of God speak for itself we can understand even the
most difficult of passages over time and so I've come through this passage over the past several days and I'm just going
to present to you the things that we know let's talk about some things that we know number one when we see the word
tongues in the Bible if you have a Strong's Concordance at home or you're
using a digital study tool like e-Sword and I cannot recommend that enough it is a free program it is brilliant for the
dictionary alone you can see what the Greek words are the Hebrew words are and all of those different things and you
can see I mean this this is why it's so important to have a dictionary that word repent
okay as you and I understand it it means to be sorry for something to turn from something that's not the word in the
scripture that word in the scripture means to change one's mind and so when
when Peter says repent and be baptized he's not saying turn from your sin and be baptized because he would be saying
you know turn from your sin to receive the remission of sin how does that work okay he's saying
because it's the end of a very long passage that he was addressing the Jews you kill the Messiah you made a mistake
what must we do to be saved these men were saying you need to change your mind specifically about who Christ was and he
was your Messiah that he was a Son of God that he did pay for all of your sin and if you do that if you put your trust
in him you receive the Forgiveness of sins very simple so understanding the
definition of a word is critical to your success this is how you get caught up
and this is how I can get caught up in false teaching let the word of God speak
for itself you do not have to be a Hebrew and Greek scholar to understand the word but you'd be wise to use a tool
that helps you understand and so when we see that word tongues especially here in this passage we are
not talking about the modern movement of tongues this is important if you catch
anything tonight outside of the Gospel catch this the modern movement of tongues is not what was happening in the
early church there was no need for an interpreter to interpret a
Heavenly language that word tongues there means languages and let me explain
to you what this was in Acts chapter 2 when the Holy Spirit descended and those
men had something fall on them as cloven tongues of fire they went out and taught
in languages that were unknown to them before but were able to be understood by those
who heard you can see and we've gone over this probably three or four times throughout
this study but it's important because we're getting to the passage we're Pentecostals and charismatic movement
leaders use their support for an unknown tongue in the book of Acts everyone that heard
those men speak in tongues that were foreign to the speaker
and native to The Listener it was a language that was already understood
we're not talking about a new language we're not talking about gobbledygook it's exactly what it is we're not
talking about writhing on the floor we're not talking about standing on the pews and jumping up and down and
praising God for a message that is not clear there was a gift that has ceased and
that gift was the ability for a person to speak in a language that was unknown to them for the benefit of the person
who has yet to believe on Christ for the sole purpose of winning someone to
Christ okay the sign movement that you see today of tongues is it is a sign all right and
you can you can put this down that I said this it is a sign of a demonic presence within that Ministry
I if if you haven't had a chance to listen to the Bible line podcast you you
will hear the testimony of my mother-in-law Kyla's Mom and Dad how they were caught up in a Ministry that
required as an Evidence of their salvation for you to speak in tongues friend that is nowhere in the Bible
that is a man-made Doctrine it is a all caps heresy and it is to be a mark
for you and for me of a Ministry to avoid and that is not what we are talking about here in the scripture
tongues was a showy gift okay because it brought a lot of attention to the person who was speaking can you imagine if all
of a sudden I began to speak in fluent Chinese right now I mean down to the T
down to the ability that it would sound like I was born in China there would be a lot of attention that
was drawn to me and then all of a sudden I switched to fluent Italian and French
and other languages of people that were here in the audience and they could hear what I was saying
that would be a gift that would be something that is miraculous and what
was happening in the Corinthian Church is everyone that had this gift was getting together and speaking at once
and there was no need for that language to be spoken if I got all the men up in the church
here we all started speaking different languages of the world and a stranger walked into our service tonight
they'd walk right back out because the things that I'm saying are
not helping them it's in a language they don't understand listen you come to me and speak Chinese I'm gonna do a lot of
this and a lot of this and now I can even get my iPhone out and
maybe try to understand what you're saying but it's of no benefit to me
I don't speak Spanish I'm not going to go up to somebody who speaks English and attempt to speak Spanish to them and
explain the gospel in a foreign language it doesn't edify the hearer so you had tongues which means languages
and when you see in the passage tonight there's one phrase that says in an
unknown tongue I want you to understand that this does not mean a unknown
language on the Earth specifically that that excuse me that word unknown is in
italics because it's not in the original translation it is there added in a post to help
understand the rest of the passage the devil is very crafty you need to get
this because he is very crafty he will do whatever needs to be done to keep a
soul from trusting in Christ he will make that person seem as the
most religious person that has ever walked the face of the Earth and they're lost
and he'll use things like this passage to trick and deceive people into
thinking that we're talking about an unknown Heavenly language I have seen this I remember as a kid I
don't know if it was Wednesday night but Dr hanklin shrimp he had a tape recorder up here and he played somebody
speaking in tongues I don't know if you guys remember this but what was very scary was when he
reversed the tape and you heard the words that were coming out of this person's mouth in reverse a
person who was slain in the Holy Spirit and I'm using air quotes for those of you who are on
the audio side of things slain in the Holy Spirit you hear them
say Lucifer's name you hear them say the word demon you hear the name of Satan called out
I remember sitting right back there Marjorie where you were sitting and I was like I wanted to get out I am not a
horror person I don't like scary things I don't I don't expose myself to it because I think the devil is in those
details but I remember hearing that and that's when I thought to myself this is this is
bad this is very bad now I'm not saying you should go seek out someone who speaks in tongues for the sole purpose
of recording them and then putting it in reverse just let it be okay
but it that is not what we're talking about was happening here in the Corinthian Church the Corinthian Church was at best
immature and they desired for praise to be heaped upon themselves and there were people
who had the gifts of speaking in tongues that were unknown to them and they were all trying to use it and there were
people who were able to prophesy and that word also we we've discussed that at length that's talking about
interpretation of the scriptures being able to understand the Old Testament prophecies through the death-brown
resurrection of Christ being fulfilled and now that gift has come to it's it's been diminished quite a bit where it's a
person being able to rightly divide the word in a way that is different than others but there's nothing about tongues
that edified a person who was already saved you're going to see that in the
scripture tonight nothing about the gift of tongues was to edify a believer
the gift that should have been desired was prophecy because prophecy helps the
person who has already trusted Christ to grow more and we're not talking about tarot cards and all those other things
palm reading not that kind of Prophecy we're talking about dividing the word of God truthfully to bring to the front of
a person's mind something that they can learn and apply to their lives
we're not talking about being able to walk up to someone and say oh I talked to your do you know someone named Susan
because she talked to me from the death you shows like that my friend if they are really communicating with the dead
and they're really bringing back facts they're talking with a demon because we know what a dead person a person who has
been separated and is in hell we know what they're saying from uh the passage in Luke go tell my
brothers so that they are not in this place and what does Abraham say they will not
believe the one would rise from the dead wow
so anytime a demon's talking about oh it's okay and I love you and you know they say they love you and stuff
you're being deceived so having said those few things we're going to look at three different sections tonight Lord
willing we'll get through verse 25 we'll start in verse 1. the first chunk we're going to look at
is the difference between tongues and prophecy we're going to read First Corinthians 14 verses 1 through 9. it's
on page 12 24. follow after charity we just got done
talking about love Paul is in this letter and he said follow after that love that agape love
and desire spiritual gifts but rather that ye may prophesy
for he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men but unto God for
no man understandeth him how be it in the spirit he speaketh Mysteries when you
immature uh Corinthian Believers when you speak in tongues and there's no one
there who speaks in that language you're only speaking to God you're not revealing any Mysteries there
verse 3. but he that prophesieth speaketh unto men too and you should
Circle these three words this should be the point of every bible study this should be the point of every
pastor's message any Ministry of the church that involves teaching God's word even down to Sunday school teachers
these three things edification exhortation and comfort edification I
want you to think of the architecture term here to build something up
if we're thinking of building a skyscraper we literally need to lay peace upon peace to the point that that
structure is built up and then it needs to be furnished and then it needs to be habitable and people come in and live in
it you're not going to tear a building down for the sake of having people live in it
the things that we say and do in church especially from a teaching perspective should build up one another
where is Gossip in this message where is bitterness in this message where is backbiting and lying in this message
there they have no part in it the person who is able to rightly divide the word of Truth and teach is supposed
to build up the hearer the next word that you see there is
exhortation and this means to awaken the person who is spiritually asleep and
I'm not talking about they're dead that's just a phrase I'm using there the person who needs a little bit of a nudge
you ever sat in the church what's next to someone that needs a nudge if you're waking up a person who's sleeping in
church you're doing the Lord's work okay I just want to let you know it's a good thing
someone who needs to be stirred someone who needs to wake up have a reality check the message should meet that need
as well and then finally to comfort
now there is a place for rebuke we see that in Paul's uh discussion in second Timothy chapter
4 to Young Pastor Timothy he says to rebuke there's going to come a time where we have to gently rebuke people
and at times there will have to be a sharp rebuke from the pulpit that's not a bad thing
but even at that time it is for the point of comfort because if you're in sin and the word of God is poking at you
it's ultimately for your comfort so if if the prophesying of a person who
claims to be in the spirit does not meet those three things there's a problem
there's a problem these are the standards that I am held to as I prepare messages verse 4 he that speaketh in an
unknown tongue edifieth himself you build up yourself
but he that prophesieth edifieth the church this is why prophecy is greater
than the gift of tongues because in this very immature Church everyone wanted to
look at me gifts and we can all if we're not careful desire the showy and flashy things of
ministry oh I don't want to help cut the grass because that doesn't get a nod from the
pulpit I don't want to do the things that are dirty jobs because I want the praise
honor and Glory friend you need to watch out for that kind of attitude
it's an attitude that is not conducive to growth we have to make sure that we understand
the power of being able to rightly divide the word of God it's all that we have in regards to Christian growth as
we grow verse 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied
for greater is he that prophesieth then he that speaketh with tongues except he
interpret that the church may be excuse me may receive edifying if you do have
the gift of tongues which at this point has ceased but what Paul is saying here to the Corinthian Church if you have
that gift you better have someone there who can make it known so it builds up people amen
and if it's a message that is unknown and can't be interpreted who's being built up oh that man
he did all this he did all that look at all the gifts that God has given him the spotlight is now off of God and
on to the individual and boy that was happening in the Corinthian Church there was some serious problems serious problems verse six now
brethren I come unto you speaking with tongues what shall I profit you except I shall
speak to you either by Revelation or by knowledge or by prophesying or by Doctrine is there any substance in it
and even things without Life Giving sound whether pipe or harp except they give a distinction in sounds how shall
it be known what is piped or harmed for if the trumpet given uncertain sound who
shall prepare himself to the battle you know some of the greatest speeches of all time have been men that speak
clearly maybe not boldly maybe very loudly
but men that speak clearly they don't skip over their words they're confident
have you ever have you ever heard a person speak and
they're unclear I just heard somebody say it so I'm going to say it like our president now
and even even in in if a person is leading someone into
battle you want something to be clear you know why the emergency alert system
tones are designed the way they are they are the two tones they're not
directly underneath each other by the way they're about six little spaces away they have studied over time and I've
told you this before those are the two tones that will cause attention for any hearer
I am terrified of that noise I don't like it I don't like dial tones either yesterday when we were getting out of my
little truck we had the radio on and you know we had the door open and it was pouring down
rain I mean the skies opened and it is flooding this this parking lot where we
pulled into the covered area and we're unloading some stuff and I am all the way down in the kitchen
and my radio is not very loud and I'm in the kitchen and I hear that emergency
alert system tone and chills directly through my body I
don't like it but it got my attention there was without any doubt
in my mind a need for me to listen what was going to follow those tones okay in
a Ministry the things that are said from the pulpit the things that are said in small groups or Sunday School classes
ought to be clear this is why we should avoid any terminology that is unclear when it
comes to the gospel I said this in our members meeting last night I was talking about how I heard of
Freddie Coyle was talking about how he went to a church years ago and as he was
leaving there was a kid that was standing in the corner and he was opening his mouth
he's just standing in the corner and he opens his mouth like that and Freddie of course is perplexed and
so he approaches the young child and he asked if everything is okay and this is the response of the child this will
break your heart he said I'm just trying to get the Lord to come into my heart
when we use phrases that are unclear they are unclear to the hearer
they are not a certain sound that child doesn't need Christ to come into their heart and I've talked to many Baptist
preachers who say well that's not what I mean and I'll be very Frank then why did we say it why do we say things that we
don't mean Christ didn't speak that way when Christ said on the cross it is finished he didn't say wait and see
he said it is finished that was not oh well that's not what I meant we should be clear
especially here the example that Paul is giving is very familiar with the people of this time they didn't
have cell phones they didn't have an emergency alert system on a electronic device when they heard a certain sound
they knew it just got real and you need to do what needs to be done
to protect you and your family and so if we have a person speaking in tongues a language that is unknown to
the hearers what benefit is it it's better for you to teach the word of
God verse 9 so likewise ye except ye utter by the Tongue words easy to be
understood how shall it be known what is spoken for you speak into the air and
sadly this is where many young people end up boy I'm sure you've heard this a person
just say something so eloquently and it seems so deep and it seems so certain
but when you actually look at what they said they've said nothing I've just described to you a politician
I've just described to you many churches there's a video recently that's running
around the internet right now of a very famous preacher
who I believe is a false prophet but in his
fits of Rage as he's speaking and as he's teaching these different truths he utters the phrase I am God almighty
he said that in a church oh and people are playing the organ oh and people in the church are
friend do you know who else wanted to be that way Lucifer and look how that went
there are many people that are just speaking into the air you look at the patience of God
and we ought to Mark and avoid these kind of teachers they have no place in our lives there's no benefit of teachers
like that verse 10. now we're going to move into the second part here avoid Desiring the showy gifts
verses 10 through 19. there are it may be so many kinds of voices in the world and none of them is without significa
signification therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice I shall be unto
him that speaketh the Barbarian and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me we're not connecting
you ever talk to somebody and they're not understanding what you're saying and when you they talk to you you're not
understanding what they say how long does that conversation go not long and it's over
verse 12. for so ye for as much as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts that word
zealous man it's showy they have a Zeal for God as Paul describes Israel in
Romans 10 but not according to knowledge boy a person can come to church a person
can dress just as sharp a person can have so much faithfulness but if they do not understand the thing that gives them
eternal life all they have is zealous actions and this is what was happening in the
Corinthian Church look at me look at me they're all zealous they're all showing up they're
all doing these things seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church that's the second time we've seen that
phrase the last time you saw it is in verse four edify at the church build up the
ministry not yourself wherefore let him speaketh in an unknown
tongue pray that he may interpret if you're going to speak in a language that the hearers of the audience don't
understand you better interpret it four if I pray in an unknown tongue my
spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful why is it then I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the
understanding also I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the understanding also else when thou shalt
bless with the spirit how shall he that uh occupyeth the room of the unlearned say amen and by giving
of thanks seeing that he understandeth not what thou sayest boy is this not a
example of many Ministries today they're saying a lot but no one
understands what they're saying I do not intend to pick on Baptist preaching but it's how I grew up
boy I can't tell you how many times when I would hear God is calling out to you God is asking for you to take a step of
faith and all of a sudden that piano player would [Music]
you know what just just as I am right and they would go on and on and on but
no call for salvation no Clarity they just want to move you so you can come down and you literally meet
somebody at least in the ministry that I grew up in who had three options for you none of them led to eternal life
but it's moving it's TR and people are coming down because they're like well he said if you have two feet you should
come down I have two feet I ought to just come down if there's if it's not understood what's
the point of saying it verse 17 for thou verily give us thanks well but the other
is not edified it blesses you the person that's speaking in tongues but it's not
blessing the individual we need to avoid that I thank my God I
speak with tongues more than you are Paul obviously was using this gift
but he is saying that the gift of teaching prophesying the word of God is
greater because it edifies more people it builds up more people
look in verse 19. yet in the church I had rather speak five words boy what must of those five
words been I think Yankee said trust Christ and be
saved boy that'd be enough five words amen that would be enough but what if I
said that in an unknown tongue you don't know what I just said people could write whole books on something I just said and
not get to the right truth if it was in an unknown language yet in the church I had rather speak
five words with my understanding that by my voice I might teach others also then
ten thousand words in an unknown tongue he said I'd rather say five words in a
language that is known than ten thousand in a language that they don't understand and notice who's being addressed here
the church the church the church that's you and me those who have put their trust in Jesus Christ were a part of
this called out assembly the Greek word there being Ecclesia when we bring someone to church we
better be bringing them to the right Church a place where it is easily understood
what is required to get to heaven continue in verse 20.
and we're actually entering into our last part here we have the purpose of tongues and of Prophecy Brethren be not
children and understanding boy this was a great description of the Corinthian Believers little kids you ever been to a
playground Maybe pre-covered is there any kind of order at a
playground kids are running around they're screaming they're going down the slide they're
going up the slide they're on the monkey bars they're in the monkey bars some kids sitting down
eating the mulch another kid is running around wildly screaming things that you and I would
never understand that's what children do children are not conducive to order they
are conducive to chaos and that's how they are when they play
is that how our church should be should it be coming in here and it's just just
nonsense you can't tell what's what's going on be not children in understanding how be
it in Malice be your children but in understanding be men be grown
when you go to the workplace there's order you know
men like to go to the bars afterwards and act like children once again but be men
in the law it is written with men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people and yet for all
that will they will uh they not hear me sayeth the Lord wherefore tongues are
and you should oh you should Mark this you need to mark this wherefore tongues are for a sign
not to them that believe but to them that believe not
boy if we have a missionary that's clear on the gospel and is gifted in languages support that man support that woman
because they are doing the work of the Lord but tongues is for those who have not believed look at what the greater gift
is but prophecy prophesying service not for
them that believe not but for them which believe if therefore the whole church be come
together into one place and all speak with tongues and there come to those that are
unlearned okay this is he's just painting the picture here or unbelievers will they not say ye are mad what does
the world say about the charismatic movement today those people have lost their minds
we are going to the extent of bringing in oil and dirt and throwing them on people they're mad
this is not a new idea God is telling us right here and you know what's worse about what's
happening in the charismatic movement today it's not even of God did you hear that yeah when you listen
to what is said in the scripture here we're they're actually talking about a gift that was given to them by God it
was the gift for them to be able to speak in different languages but they're all coming together and they're speaking
in there in a different language and a new person walks in they're like I'm out you mix with that the sexual
immorality that was happening in that church and the inability to discern whether this was a Jesus thing or an idol thing
people couldn't tell the difference and they had communion and they were just gorging in an all-you-can-eat
buffet and calling it partaking in the Lord's body this ministry needed an Awakening
and they're getting it here verse 24 but if I'll prophesy and there come in one that believeth not or one
unlearned he is convinced of all he is judged of all and thus are the secrets
of his heart made manifest and so falling down on his face he will worship God and report that God is in you of a
truth boy that's the purpose of church to convict the lost man of his sin and
give him the necessary steps that are needed for him to trust Christ
all those preachers and teachers who look at this ministry and said too much gospel there not enough
not enough there should be a place in every message for the wall in illustration
for the gospel message even if it's just John 3 16 explain that in illustration the purpose is to win people
this is not just a club for you and I to come into but oh I'm amongst like-minded Believers if the ministry is not growing
it's not doing what it's supposed to do
and what was happening in the Corinthian Church was the desire for the showy things the flashy things
the new things the things that brought attention to self
and then next week and by next week I mean Sunday night
we'll go into the rest of First Corinthians 14 and then we probably got three weeks set on first
uh Corinthians 15 and then we'll finish but I want to encourage you to be here
usually I don't do this this growing pain series on Wednesday night but we skipped this last Sunday night so if you
want to hear more like this you download our sermon audio app and all 25 of them are there
and I hope it's been a blessing to you but recognize what we talked about the gift of Prophecy
has been diminished to the point where we're not we're not talking about where people can look into an individual's
life and tell the things that they've done but we're talking about being able to rightly divide the word and the gift of
tongues it was never like what you see in the charismatic Pentecostal hair on fire
movement that's not what the Bible teaches look up here if you're here tonight and you don't
know where you're going to go and you die you can learn very easily this hand will represent you and me my phone here
will represent sin I'll put this on top of my hand because we've all sinned God He Loves Us very much but he hates this
sin because our sin separates us from him in order to get to heaven the Bible is extremely clear we have to have no sin
not a point where we stopped and we were sinless from there on no sin and the Bible says in Romans 5 we're all born
into it the Bible also says that the wages of sin is death Eternal separation forever in a place
called hell for one sin that is what is required many religions will teach that good
works can save you that sincerity in trying to live right will save you and while those things sound good they look
good they're very difficult to do but there are people who are trusting in their good works to save them the Bible
says that salvation is a free gift it's not of Works lest any man should boast
friend to be very clear if someone was able to get to heaven based on a prayer of faith in their prayer or in any kind
of turning from sin then they would be able to stand rightfully next to Christ and the Bible says that will not be so
no person can get to Heaven by any good works this hand if we'll let it
represent Jesus Christ and I mean that reverently he was fully God fully man he had no sin and he willingly went to that
cross at Calvary and he took all the sin and laid it upon himself and by all the
sin I mean all of it every single sin that had ever been committed up to that point and that ever would be committed
was paid for by Jesus Christ on that cross he was buried after he died he was
resurrected three days later of his own of his own power and he offers to anyone
the free gift of everlasting life the way we understand that is from the savior's words in John 3 16 for God so
loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in
him should not perish but have everlasting life once a person believes
on Jesus Christ all of their sin is Forgiven they are given the righteousness of God and now as God
looks on them he has already made a judgment paid he did not Overlook their sin and say oh
we won't worry about that he actually took that sin and put it on his son and beat his son and struck his son
willingly so that we could be looked at all those who would believe you're in that's the
real gospel anything else is a heresy
why do you speak so strongly because it sends people to hell we're not talking about whether a person receives a you
know coupon or not we're talking about heaven and hell boy if you're not clear on this you
ought to get clear tonight because this we are not guaranteed tomorrow
let's go to the Lord in prayer heads are bad knives are closed if you're here tonight and you have yet to put your
trust in Jesus Christ I want to encourage you to do so raising your hand doesn't save you it
just simply lets me know that what I said tonight makes sense to you so if
you're here and you'd like to be born into God's family just simply
believe on the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ God's one and only his only begotten son
When You Believe on him immediately you are saved you receive the Holy Spirit
you are sealed you're Justified you're washed you're sanctified and that will never change is there
anyone at all tonight that would like to let me know that they they made that decision to believe on the Lord anyone
at all before we close if you're watching on the internet I so strongly encourage you
to believe and leave a comment for us because that would be great but if not I just pray
that you'll believe maybe you're watching this after the Rapture maybe you're watching this in the tribulation
period maybe you're watching this later this week it's not a time-sensitive message the
only sensitivity of time with it is you need to do it before you die and I pray that you will trust in him
father as that you continue to build the individuals in this ministry
of the Gospel would go far and wide from it in Jesus name we pray amen if you enjoyed today's episode of Bible land
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