The Root of Freemasonry (Illuminati) Enochian Magic - (Good) Enoch Vs (Evil) Enoch w/ Gary Wayne (09.09.15)
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SOURCE: The Root of Freemasonry (illuminati) Enochian Magic, Enoch Vs Enoch. w/ Gary Wayne Sep 9, 2015
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thank you for tuning into now you see TV this is your host John pounders please
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be sure to share like subscribe and comment on this video so that others can hear and understand the truth in this
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broadcast today we have our friend Gary Wayne the author of the Genesis 6
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conspiracy I'm about three-quarters of the way through this book and let me tell you that this book hands-down has
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the most information regarding secret societies bloodlines and their hidden knowledge than any other book I have
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ever read tonight we'll be talking about a portion of Gary's book that has to do with the holy Enoch and the evil Enoch
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from the line of Cain Inaki and magic secret societies pyramids Giants fallen angels and all
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occult learning stem from one of these Enochs Gary welcome to the show glad to
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be here John have been very much looking forward to getting to get through with you and I'm hoping it's going to be a very interesting night yeah let me start
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by saying that your book has so many things with ample references and most of
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these things I was completely unaware of and I've read a lot of books not only is your book full of information but it's a
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great reference for any scholar that would be wanting to study this information because I'm pretty sure out
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of all the books that I have combined your book has more references and more information in it than all those books
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combined and I have quite a few of the books on this subject and but basically in this show we're gonna discuss we're
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gonna discuss one one or two chapters I believe it's two chapters one is the Enoch and Hermes and then the other one
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is the evil Enoch and we I mean we could really do a show about each chapter in
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your book because your book is so full of information I mean I anybody this listen I really really really really
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recommend this book I'm about three-quarters of the way through and I've had to read each chapter very
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slowly so that I can filter all this information that's coming through because most of the stuff I've been
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wondering about almost my whole life wondering where a lot of stuff comes from wandering about the
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pyramids wondering about where who Hermes was wonder about where Enoch II and magic came from and this that's
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pretty much this chapter right here feels a lot of that in so if you would let's go ahead and get started man I'm
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really excited to one thing about we're gonna be meeting in Nashville coming up next month and doing a video interview
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man and that's that's amazing I'm really looking forward to that I'm looking
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forward to it too as well John and want to thank you for the nice comments you
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made about the book and just want to underline that there is a lot of information in the book and there's over
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a hundred pages of endnotes to support what I'm writing so that everybody can track it back and that was one of the
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goals that I wanted to do when I wrote the book is I wanted to bring credibility to this whole genre and
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bring new information that other people haven't thought about and connect dots that other people haven't connected
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before and when we talk about the subject of Enoch this is one of those
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unconnected dots in terms of who Enoch was and the far-reaching impacts that
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Enochian literature has and so it's very very important to understand who Enoch
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was and we're gonna talk about two Enochs tonight just to get people prepared but this is key to the whole
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Nephilim narrative in my opinion I totally agree man it's a key to all the
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hidden knowledge in my opinion as well I mean I mean this is where most of the stems from them right that's absolutely
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correct Enoch is is the root to all of these different references whether people call
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it the Golden Fleece or the pearls of wisdom or the archives of the Masons or
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the golden apples or the the Grail quest or the information of the Ark of the
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Covenant they're all allegories that go back to what happened before the flood
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and with Enoch alright man well let's dig in go ahead and start us off at the
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beginning of this whole Enoch thing and give us I guess a background on the both of both of the Enochs well I think
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one of the first things that I always find interesting is people often overlook that there were two Enochs and
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so if we're gonna look at Enochian literature and the impact that Enoch had
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on prehistory and beyond the flood and even to our time we need to understand
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that there were two Enochs because one has to realize that there were two
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different scriptures and two different references to what was going on and we we have to keep straight through the two
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Enochs were so let's just talk about Enoch that most people are familiar with
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and he was seventh from the lineage of Adam in down through the lineage of Seth
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and so he was born after Jared and Jared was the sixth generation when the
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Nephilim came in into being it was that generation and that timeframe is very
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important then caming Enoch then came Methuselah Lamech and then Noah conversely on the cain branch cain
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son of adam bore his first son and his name was enoch and so he's born earlier
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than Enoch and was around much before Enoch was and Enoch received all the
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information and the knowledge that Cain would have received from Adam and when
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we look at what happened in eating according to Gnostic recollections and
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or Freemasonry recollections and masonry pre antediluvian masonry as they like to
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call it they have many many legends about this in Adam received education
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information knowledge from heaven and he passed it on to his two sons not King
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are not able because Abel obviously was slaying by Cain but on to Seth and on to
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Cain so both had this source of information that apparently
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Eitan now biblically were not told that but we are told that you know Adam spent
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a lot of time indeed inand it certainly is possible that he received great knowledge from God well in in heaven and
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that he was a practitioner of the information that he would received or it's possible that Cain received this
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information from the Dark Angels certainly biblically that's not clear but what is clear from the other
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testimonies and particularly from the Gnostic religions and from the Masonic
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organizations and secret societies is Cain received what they call the seven
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sacred Sciences as did Seth no Seth practice mostly astronomy because his
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descendants were agrarians in Cain and the people that he likely married into
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were mostly nomads and hunters and gatherers until Cain came along and reorganized them but they used these
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Sciences that they got in heaven and they were called the seven sacred Sciences and they included things like
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music and arithmetic and geometry and
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all the different sciences astronomy so there was seven in total there was
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rhetoric involved there was ability to write and I list all of those seven sciences and even though they sound
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mundane and they were a revolutionary at that time for civilizing humankind and
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it's the level of knowledge that they took this knowledge - and so Cain indoctrinated Enoch in all of this
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knowledge and at this time additional information was provided to the
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descendants of Cain and Enoch in particular additional elicit knowledge
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that came from heaven from the Dark Angels and so we have two different
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levels of information coming to Enoch now what Enoch does is he starts to
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develop how to organize this information and how to utilize them and how to
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pervert them and from there he organizes in to secret societies with initiation
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and he also formulates a religion a
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religion that honors the fallen angels and no longer honors God and they start
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to refer to all of this knowledge in ways that probably were not what God
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wanted them to do but we can see such knowledge being manifested towards the
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end of the the generations before the flood because they great built all of
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these great monuments things like the pyramids and when we look at mythologies
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from around the world we see the sub civilization and let's say several
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civilizations from their perspective because they looked at more than just the Sumerian civilization but
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civilizations that were all over the world and there was either three or four depending on which one you look at as
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major civilizations or empires and they developed civilizations that had
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significant technology significant information significant advancements and
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the ability to build and they did it all to honor the Great Architect of the universe as they like to call on which
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of course was Lucifer yes so basically
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you know I this is this is on the subject I have had a friend that had
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given me a book or he tried to give me a book I told him I didn't want to read it
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but the book was about Hermes tell us how Enoch and Hermes are basically the
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same one in the same yeah so Enoch from the king very very famous for the
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development of all knowledge including inventing writing which probably were
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hieroglyphs as the the Masons like to call it in that the writings that he not invented and other people believe it was
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the cuneiform and he he did this to be able to record all this information so so that wouldn't be
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lost and so he became fused with a number of people through history and
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prehistory because of this knowledge and in some accounts they have Enoch
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actually evolving into a God because of
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the knowledge and he was the intermediary between the gods or the fallen angels and and the kings and so
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over time Enoch is called different
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names and in different civilizations and so we see Enochs name come up in all of
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the ancient civilizations people just know him differently and one of those names was Hermes another one would be
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mercury thought was another one the Quran would refer to Enoch as Idris but
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when the Quran refers to Idris or they're actually referring to Enoch of the of the Seth line and so Enoch
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preserves all of this information and he stores it 9-volts and there's some
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descendants of Enoch that come along the sons of Lamech and again there's two Lemax one from the south line one from
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the king line and the sons of of Lamech they also have a renaissance of these
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Sciences but they're preserving this knowledge to cross over the deluge that
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they know is coming they can't prevent it but they don't want to lose their history and they don't want to lose their knowledge and they somehow wanna
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transport this information across the flood and so the information is stored in 9-volts and some people believe those
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are stored below the the pyramids and they also create two pillars that
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itemize what the seven sacred Sciences are in the location of the of the hidden
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or lost knowledge and so when it crosses the flood there's another character that
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comes along by the name of Hermes but before I touch on Hermes there's a
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god of wisdom in Egypt that if you look at the mythology's and the religions of
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H in Egypt his name was Thoth and he has a parallel
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description in terms of what he did what his role was and he also became godlike
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because of the knowledge and so he's known as Thoth in Egypt as well as
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Hermes and I'll get into how that sort of comes together in a minute or so but
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understand that in prehistory that there were seven angels that divided up the
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earth and there were the seven angels that were also involved on the creation of the Nephilim and they essentially set
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up different cult centers around the world in so this religion that Enoch had
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developed and this knowledge went to all of these these empires particularly after the Nephilim had taken over and
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they and as kings and they partnered together and so when we look at
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prehistory on the legends Enoch gets merged with thought I actually think
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Thoth is just another name for one of these seven angels that started these snake societies and brought this
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religion and knowledge along and in the different civilizations that they that
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were that had belonged to them but that's the first merging and then when you cross the flood you have Hermes of
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Egypt and Hermes of Greece who the Greeks also called their Greek Hermes
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mercury so that there is a separation in terms of how they understood Hermes as
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to the Egyptian hermes but when we look at where Hermes came from he's not in
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the Bible and so his name is very very difficult to to track except that if we
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get into Masonic legends we understand that Hermes partnered with Nimrod at
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Babel and it was Hermes who found these two pillars that I was talking about before
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and so now he becomes along with Nimrod the two co-conspirators to have a
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renaissance of this anti diluvian knowledge at Babel which was manifested
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in the tower and we understand the power of this information that they had just
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gotten their hands on and started to redevelop in the post alluvium world and we look at the Babel account and
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paraphrasing what it says in Genesis about Babel is is that with one language
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and working as one people there's nothing that they will not be capable of
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doing and this goes to this this knowledge that I was talking about so Hermes after Babel he moves off to Egypt
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with MS room and with him to start the Egyptian civilization again and Nimrod
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stays in shell dia and and continues to develop as best they can with the
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different languages and all the different things that they have to deal with their development of this this
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knowledge and this religion again and people will know the Chaldeans as the Babylonians and the wise men who
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produced the Magi I think everybody's really familiar with that but they don't really know exactly how they got that
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information well the first resurfaced again at Babel and so Hermes once he
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moves over with ham and and MS room to Egypt they start all of this development
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of the religion in the mysteries again in Egypt and that's where hermie starts
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to get fused with with Enoch and then there's a third hermes that comes along
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quite a bit later who is the father of alchemy which is one of the offshoots of
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the knowledge of these seven Sciences and understand that because I don't
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think I underlined it well enough earlier is is that the power of this knowledge that was developed and what
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they were trying to develop again had to be housed in secret societies for the elite because they felt that knowledge
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was so powerful that it could destroy the world and they certainly didn't want this information in the hands of the
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mundane mortals or the descendants of Noah or descendants of Seth so they wanted to keep it separated from
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them along with their belief in reincarnation and the process that goes along with that and so in the post
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alluvion world hermes is so bound to Enoch in the history that they sort of
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come together as one figure and then with the third one you get the term
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ethic the three Hermes or the term esketh Hermes that people might be
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familiar with in in the occult world and so it's just to me it's a fusing of these three characters all into one to
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try and make sense of all of this history and all of this knowledge that was that was originally developed in in
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prehistory and crossed the flood and and so they came up with that title as sort
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of the cosmology of all of this if that makes sense yeah that makes perfect
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sense man and I you know I as far as the information goes so you said that they
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might have knowledge to destroy the entire world obviously you know there's
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a lot going on right now with CERN and organizations such as that and we all
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know anybody this listen to this that doesn't know we know that there are elite class there are the Bob will cause
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some spiritual powers Thrones just different kinds of spiritual powers that control our world that we live in how
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close do you think you know the anti-crisis says he'll understand dark sentences do you believe that has to do
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with this particular kind of knowledge that maybe a lot of people don't quite
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understand yet but are there with technology they're getting towards the understanding yeah and I think a couple
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things on that aspect is is certainly the Antichrist will be absolutely illuminated and I don't use that term
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lightly because it's a specific term for the adepts and he'll be a super adept
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and he'll be of genius-level and he will be totally familiar with all of this information and knowledge and we'll see
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more of this knowledge coming out as we get closer to the end times and I think we'll see significant displays of it in the end
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time so that it deludes the people into believing that the Antichrist is the is
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the Messiah and they will lead the rebellion and they will leech humankind to freedom so that definitely is is all
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connected and if we look at science today all of our sciences come out of
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this and so when we talk about the seven sacred Sciences those are also known as the seven liberal arts and it's the
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pillar of our scientific knowledge today there's an organization that was
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organized in the 1600s called a
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Freemasonry and amongst the Freemasons were the Rosicrucians were who are
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forming Freemasonry and at the same time these people partnered to start a society called the Royal Society and the
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Royal Society is also called the invisible college and if there's people who are familiar with the invisible
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college term then there'll be a little bit more familiar with the mystic side of what I'm talking about because again
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that has a very specific reference and Rosicrucianism as to what the invisible
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college is but this is the this is the start of modern science and it was created to not only develop the sciences
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but to pay honor to the Great Architect of the universe and who of course is
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Lucifer and all of these terms are connected because it's part of their
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belief system what's important about this is is all of the education and all
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of the scientific communities pay homage to the Royal Society to this day so they're inundated with their religion
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and their belief systems so one wonders why Christianity and Christian beliefs
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don't get a hearing and are considered and any anything others long as it's not
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got anything to do with the Bible is considered this is why and so this
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knowledge that they're developing and what we're looking at the CERN whatever they're doing there and there's
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a lot of speculation there but they're playing with technology and science that
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is you know amazing on the surface level but very very dangerous
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this isn't pursuit of their Luciferian agenda there is no doubt about it
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because science is a slave to the Royal College to these ancient organisations
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to the seven sacred Sciences to this whole conspiracy that's been going on
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since prehistory and I think what you know people sort of need to realize
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about this is is that we can see a lot of the armies still being paid in
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education today or in different particular sciences so that they have to
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wear rings and they have to do initiations when they're in college and we look at let's say the Medical Society
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for example just look at any of those symbols that they're using in patan I'll
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use the medical societies whether it's doctors or it's institutions they use this snake wrapped around a stick motif
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and that's the Hermes motif and you're gonna see a dual snake motif and a
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single snake motif and some of them will have Hermes sandals on the bottom every organization in the medical field will
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have the variation of it and I'll even take that back where it goes back to Greek mythology and how that was
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developed but both both of those lead directly back to the snake societies of
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old and the knowledge that they possessed and certainly medical
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knowledge has been always a big part of these sciences and knowledge one thing
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the one thing when I was reading in your book on the chapters called anak de Ville
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you were talking about a city in Egypt called her ma palace if I'm pronouncing
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that right and it's a it was the home of the great white Brotherhood and I know
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that you discussed that later in your book can you kind of explain that just a little bit to us chirps people are probably familiar with
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the great right the great white Brotherhood of the Illuminati today and
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so this term goes back in time to two locations from aa police and also it was
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also in Heliopolis city of the Sun and it also goes back to Babel and so Nimrod
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created the Constitution at Babel in the first great white Brotherhood of masonry
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at the time of Babel and then it moved to Egypt to her ma police where it
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thrived in parallel to the Chaldeans and later on the the the Constitution and
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the sciences and the organization was Renaissance once more and sort of
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reinvigorated this great white Brotherhood Society and what's important
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about this as well is this is the linkage that the religion and a people
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that people are familiar with from the Dead Sea Scrolls the Essenes they are a polytheist sect of Judaism very much
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related with Kaabah lism and they believe they received all of their
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information and their beliefs and their religion and their knowledge back to the
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great white Brotherhood and of course it seems would wear white robes as the
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people of the great white Brotherhood did back in the day and if people are looking for a good example of who the
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Essenes were these were the people in the temple that Ezekiel referred to who
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would turn their back to the temple in the mornings and pray in the direction of the Rising Sun did you have to
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remember that the the mystical religion that Enoch developed was the Sun worship
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worshipping religion and so the Sun is a significant part of this whole worship
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and again you look at Sun worship all around the world in all of polytheist colors cultures this is not a
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coincidence this is just taking it back to the root yeah I exactly man and you
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can see Sun worship and a lot of Christianity you know it's been infiltrated into that you can see Sun
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worship and so many different religions I mean I mean any religion is pretty
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much been infiltrated with it one thing I wanted to ask do you think that most masons think that they're following the
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teachings of the holy Enoch do they think that they're involved in this holy branch as opposed to the evil branch I
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mean and I'm not talking about the elite that know that are in there not in the no not the not initiated but the average
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Mason are they going to believe that they're involved in holy teachings yes
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they the the lower level initiatives will be deceived in this manner and it's done for two reasons one is so that they
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that they're not scared I guess scared away from the organization they'll be initiated into Luciferian doctrine at
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the 33rd degree or the third level of perfection depending on which organization of masonry you're talking
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about because there's two there's the Scottish Rite and then there's also the York Rite so but at that level of
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perfection they'll learn who who the true God is that they worship but the
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lower levels will think and believe that this is Enoch from the Seth loin second
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reason that they did it was you have to look at Catholicism in the Roman Church
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they were very very aggressive against any belief system or religion or
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organization that ran contrary to the Christian religion and so they over time
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in the last 2,000 years they meshed these two Enochs together to put on the
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sort of cloak of being righteous as opposed to who you know who the true
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enoch is that they recognized and they recognized Enoch as their true patriarch
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and to both is is yet another one of those
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patriarchs that they look to in a very very high regard just as they look at Lamech son of Kane
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as a key player and a patriarch and in particular a few other of lamech s--
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progeny I already mentioned tubal-cain but certainly nama jubail and jebel
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those are the key ones that they certainly recognize from the seven sacred Sciences and developing in
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prehistory but tubal-cain for the most part in Enoch in Cain are the most important figures in masonry as far as
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their previous prehistory records go okay and another thing you know you're talking about the
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two pillars well one one person that a lot of Freemasons like to refer to as
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Hiram Abiff and the pillars that they build I guess would be jaqen and Boaz
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and and most people say that you know I've talked to several Mason's that say the secret of Freemasonry lie in the
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pillars of jaqen and Boaz is there any significance to those pillars that go
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along with the the pillars that we're you mentioned in this chapter yeah so
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what I mean Solomon is in the other belief system is considered one of the
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great Magi one of the great Wizards one of the great Sorcerer's of all time and
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also one of the grand superintendents of
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masonry as well and that's more of a usurping of biblical stories and all of
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the sort of allegorical things that went along with Solomon's reign but certainly
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Hyrum a beef was a real figure and he
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received this building knowledge down through the building organizations which
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is again another arm of the 6,000 year conspiracy of the knowledge of how to
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build these great temples and things and so his and all through the cretan builders where they
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received their information from was utilized in help building the temple and
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all of this is designed just to delegitimize christianity and to again
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give them that sort of level of pedigree
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and level of authority but really in
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terms of going right to the pillar of their belief system it's just another allegory of several things that are
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coming together in the pillars but and they're quite prominent in Freemasonry but I don't you know I don't think that
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it goes to the core of their beliefs it's just it just another allegory just something to kind of confuse the the
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members below 33rd degree yeah it's just again and the the illuminated
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will have a different take on the meaning of that than what they teach the lower level so there's two meanings to
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all of the allegories that they teach the lower levels there's the one to those who aren't ready yet to learn the
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true message and then that's what the true message is and that's yep you have to understand that part of this whole
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society that was built by Enoch in and Nimrod and the great white Brotherhood of Egypt is is that these organizations
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have circles within circles so the Illuminati is at the small little circle of Freemasonry and only those who are
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illuminated at the 33rd degree level know all of the information and what the true information is right yeah and you
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know that's that's one thing that I if anybody's Mason's than they are listening to this they really need to
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take heed to what is being said here and buy this book because all of the
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information that Gary is giving right now is referenced in the teachings that
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are probably in your library as a freemason and what you you really need
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to figure out what you're doing I know that my uncle was a 32nd degree freemason use a Shriner and also
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Scottish Rite and he was one of the potentates and and he was also a Baptist minister so he did
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not he didn't know a lot of this stuff at his level at least I don't think he did he may have but if he did I didn't I
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wasn't aware of it but this is something that's very important because you're linking yourselves together with a group
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of people you know anybody that you have an oath with you don't know these people
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you don't know who you're linking yourself with and I believe that Gary's lined it up pretty clear in his book who
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you're linking yourself with and another thing area that I wanted to discuss is the the seven sacred Sciences the
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different things as far as you know obviously astrology and stuff like that can you explain a few of these sacred
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Sciences and what they are yeah so let's just go over each of these just quickly
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and so the first one is of the seven liberal Sciences is as grammar and that
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was the teach humankind to both speak and write the second one it was rhetoric
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and that was to teach humankind to speak in subtle terms the third one is
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dialectic to teach humankind to discern between truth and falsehood arithmetic
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to teach humankind to compute all manners and numbers geometry to teach
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humankind to measure the earth and all things and to build things music which
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is also is numbers based in when you really get down to it and Pythagoras was
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a big proponent of his musical and
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numerology philosophy so music was
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another one in astronomy was to teach humankind about the planets and the
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stars and out of astronomy came astrology which was a noted perversion
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of prehistory that survived and also an invention of Enoch and just so that
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people understand a little bit more about rhetoric in its original state it was the art of persuasion and
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grammar was more or less molding and educating men and teaching them to read so you can see how powerful these things
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are just from civilizing human but humans but how far they could could
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actually take it and when you look at some of the mythologies around
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prehistory at what they were able to do and in some of the mythologies you know flying machines and in very powerful
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weapons and incredible monuments that they built that they really did develop
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these things to to a great level so those are this the original seven sacred
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Sciences Batman I appreciate you you answering that now like when it comes to
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these sciences art I know in the book an actual Book of Enoch that was written by the whole Enoch it talks about the
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Fallen Angels teaching men certain certain things I guess a lot of these
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things line up with those seven sacred Sciences it does and more you know
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because they brought in things like you know abortion and sacrifices and the art
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of war and of course tubal-cain which is one of the famous people from Masonic
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prehistory he was very much a military man and some believe he was actually a
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giant which I suppose is possible but it
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would not be through the day six not through the day six the Genesis six
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Giants because tubal-cain was son of Lamech so unless Lamech married a female
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giant that probably wouldn't be the case but legend has it that he was a giant
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yeah and I know a lot of a lot of people hold to the belief that like for
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instance Nimrod when it says he became a mighty warrior before the Lord it's
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actually talking about him becoming a giant or of sorts and I know that yeah
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you don't discuss this in your book but you know it's very possible you said that they worked with these fallen
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angels on with these Nephilim to do a lot of these things so whether or not they were actually Giants or you
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know things like you know and fallen angel or whatever they still were working together with these beans in
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doing a lot of these things and the preservation of those things were in the
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were in the pillars absolutely and I'm
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gonna just I'm going to come back to that in a second I want people to understand that tubal-cain nama jubail
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and jebel when you look at masonic writings these and other mythologies
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these people have great great infamy and
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in the legends of the craft from Freemasonry I mean to baal was he was a
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as a Smith an artist artists artists fur of the highest level creating tools and
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weapons a master craftsman military leader you know and from the Bible it
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just sort of hints at that that tubal-cain had forged tools from a
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bronze and iron and also in the book I'll make some surprising references at
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least for me I thought was surprising that iron actually went back into prehistory you know spend a little bit
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time on that because most people think iron didn't come along till about 1400 BC at least that's the standard thing
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that's taught in in education nama was basically known as creating a craft
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called weaving but nama has more importance than then this she was
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thought to of married Sammael the fallen angel and produced
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Giants through that marriage nama is also believed in the gnostic religion to
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be a derivative of Nuria and Nuria has a few different names probably all five or
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six different names and she was married to an interesting fellow named D Coolio and
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soda kuleana nuria / nama where the two that survived the flood in the Greek
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mythology and so Dooku Leone was the son of Prometheus so whether or not
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Prometheus was a Nephilim or fallen angel it doesn't matter because this is
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still another story of Mythology of giants surviving the flood on an arc which i think is rather interesting and
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in the Sumerian mythology nama is traced back with a few different names but
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understand her as a dragon queen of the original ring Lords and in Sumeria so
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she has a very very infamous legacy that goes up through prehistory as did enoch
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jubail was also noted in the legends of the craft as inventing music and jebel
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who is noted for living in tents and ranching and farming in the bible and
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his account was known for developing masonry so these were the four that
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really took the Renaissance of the seven sacred Sciences to the new level from
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the generation immediately following the entrance of the Nephilim and they would
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have partnered with the Nephilim and it would have become the statewide religion of prehistory and we see that again in
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so much entertainment so much mythology that when you see King ships you have these Merlin type wizards or the wizard
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Wizards that you see in the Lord of the Rings or if you look at the priests of
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Egypt and this is that partnership that happens so you had not only the religion
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in the Kings but you had this knowledge and it was all centered and it was all
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controlled through these secrets sake snake societies yeah my net my next question was going to be how did the
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lineage of Cain go into the post-flood but I think you answered that now you mentioned the Lord of the Rings and ring
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Lord I know you you talk all this stuff in your book that's why
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people really need to get it but it's so interesting to me that that that and the Atlantis and all these things just tie
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in together to be basically the same thing I mean you look at these history
42:29
books and and it's just it's amazing to me how they all tie together and and
42:36
people that don't know a lot of people like I've talked to people before they think we're Lord of the Rings as a Christian based film and that couldn't
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be farther from the truth it it is as far from the truth as you
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can imagine it does bring to you know reality some information of what that
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pre-flood world was like but it is totally from a adversarial perspective a
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totally from a polytheist perspective and you know the Annunaki from from that
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time were the were the kings and so they were the ring lords they had a all of
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the king's ships were were Nephilim and they were anointed at napur to be kings
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to to rule the earth and that was a ring of kings a circle of a table that they
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would meet at and that's you know you can see that reflected again in the King Arthur round table you know when you
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talk when you see Lord of the Rings and you see the the two different kinds of
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little people between the elves and Alexis actually there's three kinds of little people in there they're talking
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about perhaps different beings that were
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around before the flood because that
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sort of legacy just apt and ethicists absolutely continues and and again we're
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not going to talk about aliens in this show but there's a direct connection just those little people that they keep
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that they keep track of in the various fairy tales and legends and new
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literature there's one that looks very much like and it's likely they're the grey alien
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so this is the furthest thing that you can possibly imagine from a Christian
44:28
perspective but it probably give us a little bit of glimpse into prehistory okay so I mean we got books
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like Homer's Iliad the Theogony and stuff that mention all these all these
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things and there's a lot of you know like the Roman culture and the Greek culture I was reading a book about Nero
44:46
the other day that said he had an ogre that fought in his gladiator stuff I mean all these things are mentioned in
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these books that most of the cultures consider history and you know so like
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like I said before if you if the people that are listening at our Freemasons or they're just normal people would go and
45:07
read their books that that their craft believes they would see this information
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what do you what do you suggest I guess to people that are seeking this
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information when you're in your book you have all these references for all these
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different books how readily available were these books for you I know that I mean I can't imagine how many hours and
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that upon hours that you spent putting this stuff together yeah so most of the
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books are quite readily available it's
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easy to get books and copies of books you know about Greek history and
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Sumerian history but when you get into secret societies like the legends of the
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craft those can be very very difficult to get getting the Vedas can be very
46:00
very difficult especially in English and you only get pieces at a time getting
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the Popol Vuh was very very very difficult but you just you know unless
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you're really into the umpteenth end of it like I am all of this other informations very easily gotten neither
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you can get them from libraries or you can in order them online and I wanted to
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stress this again to people they're listening get this book I mean I that
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we're talking this is two very short chapters in the book that we're discussing in our show tonight I mean
46:42
these are these are probably one of the two of the shortest chapters in your book and we we just did a our show about us
46:48
so you really need to get this book you know there's there's so much more about this we're talking bloodlines that last
46:55
come from post-flood or pre-flood all the way to today and gary lines them all
47:03
out in this book and shows you how they all fit together over time and you know
47:09
that we were talking about muslim philosophy that uh you know hydrous it was one of the people i guess that would
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be enoch am i right correct yeah so you're talking about you know buddha all
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these different people they kind of all line out together and you know and they
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they go all the way to bloodlines that are ruling the world right now to just
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it's just amazing this book and what we're gonna do is we're going to end the show on this note because i know that
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there's a ton we could talk about like i said we only got into two chapters of this book and there's so much more i
47:47
mean where you have over near a thousand pages of knowledge that goes all the way
47:54
to the end in this book gary and i'm really impressed with it man and i and i know that a lot of
47:59
people we make sure you subscribe and and do all that stuff on here because i am going to be interviewing gary in
48:06
nashville in october and i'm gonna be doing it via video and we're gonna be
48:11
talking about different things about his book and and just a whole nother subject and and so make sure to get the book
48:18
it's a I'm telling if you're a scholar whatever you are this book has everything that you need to study for
48:25
these subjects yeah and I'd like to sort of finish on a couple of things to be
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careful with Enoch and Enoch literature and I touched on a little bit here earlier but the book of Jubilees is a
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book that the Essenes is their most sacred scripture and that is Enoch the
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evils book and so when you're reading anything on Enoch make sure you continually are reading it with a
48:55
critical analysis does it line up with what the Bible says because if it's not it's probably a
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scripture from the other Enoch that that's been blended in somehow somehow over time also understand Enoch the evil
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Enoch as partnering with the potentates of prehistory he's kind of like the
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false prophet and so you have the universal religion that he created at
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that time which was in all of those civilizations and he's the Prophet false prophet and you have the powerful
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potentates which is the Nephilim and so you need to keep that in mind because again if you go across the flood and you
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go to Babel you have Hermes who is like the false prophet you have the Antichrist finger in Nimrod
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and you have the whole world working together and and under a mystical
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religion this is a similar thing that takes place in the end time so we need to understand what happened in history
49:54
so that we can better understand what is coming so I encourage people to learn
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about the different allegories and take it right back to history because all of
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this is is defined in the Bible as to how it relates to the end time you just
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have to take the time to learn about it exactly and one thing I will ask you is
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if people are looking to find out there is a book of enoch that is mentioned in
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the book of jude and that is you know referenced in the scripture that i've read before and i personally my personal
50:30
opinion on this and and you know done' you know i'm not i'm not saying that my
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personal opinion is always a hundred percent correct but i believe the book of enoch is inspired personally as
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scripture what can you give people a a
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good place to buy the real book of enoch because it give us a lot of information that is left that is not in genesis that
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kind of ties everything together can you give them a idea of what book of enoch
50:59
they're looking for well there's a there's a few books of enoch they don't usually come separate although i think
51:06
there might be a few publications out there they usually mixed in with Gnostic scriptures or in the neg Hammadi library
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and so there's the first book of Enoch and the second book of Enoch and then
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there's the Enoch book of Giants those are both the only three that I would say
51:23
that you could probably read and not look at as a different scripture as to
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what's in the Bible and I would also underline that you know many it was you know at one time the books of Enoch were
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part of the original canon but they were apocryphal even even at that time and
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many of the church fathers used to quote from the books of Enoch alright Gary I
51:52
appreciate it man and I and I I really appreciate you coming on today because a lot of the questions that I had about
51:59
Enoch and and Hermes and all these figures that are actually Enoch is I've
52:07
been answered today and also answered in your book I just wanted to make it clear to people because I know so many people
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personally that are deceived by this information and by the information that
52:21
they've been given because they are I have friends that are freemasons I have family that are freemasons and I really
52:28
want them to know I've explained you know a lot of it to them and I've actually told them to check out your book and and I really want I really want
52:36
everybody listening to really just take heed to what is being said here by the book don't it's one of the only books
52:43
you're gonna need on this subject I'm telling you and I don't I don't promote tons of different books but I can tell
52:50
you right now that this book is almost a one-stop shop when it comes to this kind
52:55
of information because it has everything in it and so Gary I appreciate you being on the show and I look forward to seeing
53:02
you next month in Nashville terrific I've really enjoyed the evening
53:08
if people want to have a closer look at the book they can go to WWE know six
53:14
conspiracy calm I've got the ninety-eight chapters with some pictures and a little bit about each chapter and
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you can also link in to Barnes & Noble calm and
53:26
komm to purchase the book in either softcover or kindle format or if
53:31
somebody wanted a personalized or autographed copy they can order direct for me on the website as well so really
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want to thank you for this opportunity hopefully we've covered some material that people haven't heard before or that
53:47
they want to pursue a little bit further alright once again this is john pounders
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with now uctv and you guys have a good night or a good day or whatever it may be in your neck of the woods thank you
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